log on. michael w. smith, the w. stands for whitaker. >> brian: get his new cd. it's out today. bill: hey, thank you guys! good morning, everybody, emerging as a potent force, new evidence the taet party is not dividing republicans as some thought or many feared or many democrats might have hoped. "wall street journal" polling shows more than 70 percent of republicans support the upstart political movement and that might have huge implications for november and beyond. good morning, everybody! that's where we start. who are you? >> juliet: i'm juliet hudd kwr-fpl, good to be with you, you should know my name, i've been here a long time! the poll finds -- eye the -- by the way, i'm in for martha maccallum. even though many knocked off incumbents in the primaries. bill: dana perino leads our

story, former white house press secretary for president bush. what do you think? how do you evaluate this poll, is it a merging of the parties or were they ever joined in the first place in your view? >> i don't think they were ever necessarily joined. the tea party movement came out of the grassroots. it's not defined, fully defined -- a fully defined organization like the democrat or republican party, it's a grassroots movement. they have set out to achieve goals based on core values and i think what republicans have found out is well, i'm for those things too, i'm for lowering government spending, i'm for lower taxes, i'm for curbing government growth and for the lowering of the decifit, and republicans across america will say well, i'm for those things too and untporltly for the democrats they didn't seize the opportunity to try to be more part of it. bill: here i think is where you're going, and i'll help try and take you there. i think one of the most

outstanding questions in this political year is whether or not the people you see in the videotape are antidemocratic, are they antiobama or just antiestablishment. antiincumbent, and whether you're a democrat or republican, you're treading on soft ground here. >> well, as a form press secretary, i think what i would say is i think they're proamerica and it's the america they grew up with, they want it to be strong for themselves and for their future generations, and for all the good work that we're able to do around the world and we're able to do that when we're stronger and have a better economy. i think that's where they're coming from. i don't think they're against the president. i think that they are going to show a lot of incumbents this year, democrats and republicans, that if you want our support, then you are going to have to adapt, and if you don't adapt, you probably won't be reelected. bill: well, this is contrary -- one of the guys who did the poll, he was quoted as saying these are essentially conservative republicans or ticked off people, actually,

he said they are very ticked off people, qualifier noted. is he right? because based on your answer, you disagree with that. >> well, i think here's the thing. don't confuse conviction with anger. okay? i think a lot of democrats have tried to position the tea party as bigots, racists, as these angry people. they're demonstrating. that's not bad thing. think about antiwar demonstrators. they were coming at it from the perspective they wanted the war to end because they wanted to bring american troops home. you can be for something and be accused of being against something. i think the tea party has tapped into something, this anger, if you want to call it, but it's more of a conviction. do we want america to be better, and, therefore, we are going to try to help candidates get elected to office that will make our one stronger from an economic standpoint. bill: essentially they're saying make government smaller. one thing that is not in their movement is r-rbl --

are social issues. chris van hollen from the democratic side joins us to tell us about democratic strategy, 34 days and counting. thank you, dana perino. juliet: president obama hitting the campaign trail to rally the democratic base ahead of the mid terms, holding an event in the traditionally liberal city of madison, wisconsin, police estimates that more than 26,000 people showed up to see him at the university of wisconsin's campus, the president, echoing back to his mantra of the 2008 campaign, that's that voters need to show up. >> change is going to come! change is going to come for this generation! if we work for it. if we fight for it. if we believe in it. the biggest mistake we could make right now, it's to let disappointment or frustration lead to apathy and indifference. that is how the other side wins. juliet: president obama said the other side will lead to the same failed polices that

got us here in the first place. he was joined at the rally by a number of democratic candidates, including wisconsin senator russ feingold, he's currently trailing his republican opponent ron johnson in the polls. bill: a big question of whether or not fein goal was going to show up and he did. will the vote -- ahead of the nonpartisan congressional budget now sounding off saying an extension would give the economy a big shot in the arm. listen here: >> as it was supported before, temporarily or permanently extending part or all of the expiring tax cuts would boot output unemployment in the tax few years relate toeuf what would occur under current law where the tax cuts expire. lower tax rates boost peoples' work effort 57bd saving when increases economic activity. bill: he did have a note of caution saying extending the tax cuts could eventually hurt the economy because the government would have to borrow money to finance them. of course, washington could also cut spend to go make up for that, too.

that was the head of the kpwr-fplt o. juliet: we heard the president say this multiple times leading up to the vote on the health care reform. listen: >> under the reform we're proposing, if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. if you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan. juliet: well, but now we're getting word that 22,000 seniors are being forced to find new health care coverage to supplement their medicare benefits. new england's harvard pilgrim, deciding to drop its medicare advantage program. the company point to go cuts in government payment to companies who give extra coverage to seniors. stuart varney is anchor of varney & company. st-fplt tu, the president announces the premiums would only drop by about a percent a year but that didn't reassure harvard pilgrim at least. >> look, it's worth repeating what the president said when he was trying to sell health care reform. i'll repeat it for you. if you like the plan, you keep the plan. well, for these 22,000 people, with harvard pilgrim

in massachusetts, that simply is not the case, they've had their plan dropped. taken away from them. they were on this thing called medicare advantage, which pays medical costs that medicare does not. in fact, there are 11 million people on medicare advantage, and the heritage foundation says 7 million of them will lose that coverage in the next four years, because the government, under health care reform, is withdrawing support from medicare advantage. result? millions of people will not have the plan that they had when health care reform was passed, which they like. it's going to be taken away from them. juliet: so basically, it's you can keep your plan, if it's -- if it decides it wants to keep stkpwhraou in this case you can't keep the plan. it was dropped. flat out dropped. and there are many, many cases where the plan has been changed on you, to the point where it's no longer the same plan that you had in the first place. juliet: you have a personal story about this.

tell us about that. >> i ran into someone 30 years experience in the hotel industry, makes about $35,000 per year. under -- before health care reform, there was no deductible for this person's medical cost. juliet: how much is it now? >> now, $1500 a year. for a person who makes 35 grand a year, that's a lot of money. that's a big hit. and this person is fuming at health care reform, and president obama. juliet: i'm sure we'll hear much more about this on your show, on the fox business network. good to see you. thank you. bill: we have some extreme weather this morning, a major storm threatening to cause trouble for millions up and down the east coast, heavy rain soaking florida at the moment, parts of that state formally known as the sunshine -- formerly known as as the sunshine state. >> former -- it's still known as the sunshine state. >> as that system moves up and down, look at the east coast. many could get hit in a big

way, threatening many of the big cities, boston, new york, forecasters -- forecasters warn of major flooding in the next two, three days. watch that as it comes from florida. 10 inches anywhere is trouble. juliet: but once it goes away, the sun will come out. not necessarily tomorrow. meantime in minnesota, folks are dealing with flood, tore earningsal -- torrential rains wiping out some towns, flood waters overflowing homes and businesses, some areas reporting almost a foot of rain. now the water has begun to recede but a lot of the areas are inundated, folks saying they did not think it would be so bad. >> this is terrible. >> it's crazy. >> the ground is saturated, it's very soft, you get a -- water has a good way of digging holes for you, and they're going to cause washouts, a lot more problems with infrastructure and roadways. juliet: the leaders of the cities expect the roads to remain closed until the road damage is fixed. bill: they've been dealing with that for days, haven't

they? it was only a pe. wee football game, fifth and sixth graders, temps off the charts, not here. here! now the league is handing down the punishment. we'll talk to a man in the middle of this brawl. fellas! >> dads, come on! >> president obama, asked point blank about his religious state. more put to the world was most powerful man. who asked it and why. bill: and how should an officer treat you in a traffic stop? this motorcyclist who had a cop pull a gun on him thought so, police said you're wrong, now a judge has weighed in on the camera helmet. did the judge make the right call?

juliet: welcome back. arizona officials now raising questions about the shooting of a sheriff's department terbgs shall deputy said a group of

including smalllers ambushed him, he was grazed by a bullet during the gun battle but forensic experts say the bullet was fired from inches away and not 25 yards as claimed. the department department of puc safety is checking for gun shot residue and other evidence showing it could have been a close range shot, the claim coming amidst bitter debate over arizona's immigration law. bill: 14 minutes past, juliet, during a town hallie ant -- event yesterday a woman asked the president why are you a christian. here's the response: >> i'm a christian by choice, you know, my family didn't -- frankly, they weren't, uh, folks who went to church every week. i came to my christian faith later in life, and it was because the precepts of jesus christ spoke to me in terms of the kind of life that i would want to lead.

bill: it dominated that town hall. actually it was a back yard session in mexico and jonathan morris, fox news contributor is with me now. fine answer? >> not too bad. chairtaably interpreted, pretty good. but it's not how the average christian in the united states would answer that question. i'm a christian by choice. it was the precepts of christianty, jesus christ, that attracted me. the precepts? that's not how the average christian would respond. christianty for most christians who have it as a big part of their life, it's a falling no love not with a precepts, who's going to fall in love with the ten commandments, it's falling in love with a person, meaning jesus of naz rhet. bill: far from us to judgment. >> he's talking about this. it's been a big push. why? because there's a big percentage in the united states who thought he was a muslim.

this was a response by the white house from everything that i can tell, a purposeful response to say let's get this out there. bill: but he answers it intellectual or as opposed to emotionally, and people don't use words like he used, what does that mean? >> this is the way he sees it. this is the way he approaches christianty. we're not judging his heart here. we're saying what did he say and what does that mean. the fact that he has not chose enchurch after two years in washington also says something. does it mean he's a bad christian? far be it for me to say that. it says something. bill: this is from two weeks ago when the first family went to church, i think it was the fourth time according to the brain room research. you mentioned the polls. we can show the viewers now, 43 percent, when asked, do not know whether he's a christian or muslim, 43 percent at the bottom of your screen, that goes to the point you're making. i think the bigger point is this, right or wrong, good or bad, in modern day

politics, he's the irs president that has chosen not to go to church every week. we have hours of videotape of former president bush, former president clinton, and bush 41, going to church. >> sure. was it then just a show in i'm not so glad he's not going to church in but it does say something in the way he views reality, christian faith and i'm glad he's explaining it now. whether you agree or not it's helpful to know where a president stands. >> one more point on this, the woman yesterday didn't say are you a christian, she said why are you a christian >> great question. there's a pew forum that said basically christians and other religious people don't know their faith. you can't love what you don't know. so i'm glad we're discussing this, bill. bill: it dominated yesterday in new mexico. i don't think it came nup wisconsin. we'll see whether or not it comes up. >> it's in the "new york times", it's all over. it's good we're discussing it. bill: you're the expert on

t. thank you, father, appreciate it. juliet, what's next. skwrao*ut skwrao ut he's the first gitmo detainee to be tried in a civilian court and it's getting underway blocks from ground zero. why this case may be more about osama bin laden than anything else. plus remember this? bill: who can forget? >> why didn't the bill pass? you know, for all the whining about the process, we had an up or down vote, you know what percentage of republicans voted for it? 7 percent. >> i'm going to answer the question. >> i'm going to answer the question right now, bill: peter king and anthony weiner, health care workers, the bill hits the floor of the house today. have the two lawmakers, the two new yorkers resolved their differences? you will find out today. that answer, in "america's newsroom", forthcoming.

bill: music city is getting its grooving back, the sweet swoupbdz of country music back at grand ole opry in tennessee. flush. >> ♪ >> ♪ they were picking, huh julia? look at that banjo. the national landmark opened its doors, celebrating with a special concert. after the devastating floods in may, they damaged instruments and memorabilia, the archives, the historic stage was left under 4 feet of water. now that's fixed and there are smiles again in nashville, tennessee, music city. juliet: jury selection is set to begin in the trial of the first gitmo detainee to be tried in a civilian court blocks from ground zero, ga

gahmani, the attacks killed 244 people, including a dozen americans. eric shawn is live in the federal courthouse in lower manhattan. what's going to happen today? >> 41 -- when hundred junior *r jurors listen kaeuld to try the terror suspect in civilian federal court here in the united states, it is the trial of ahmed ghailani, 36 years old, he was reportedly a bodyguard for osama bin laden, he was captured in pakistan in 2004, he spent about three years in gitmo, and he reportedly said he prefers guantanamo bay to the metropolitan correction center here, he says, in court papers, he was able to mingle with other prisoners, that he also found it moreples an and more relaxed but prefers the civilian system over the military system because there are stricter rules of evidence

in the military system versus the civilian one. the bombings in 1998 in africa of the two embassies did kill 224 people, including 12 americans. he's accused of assembling the bomb, propane tanks, getting the truck that was used in that. he denies that. nine years ago, by the way, four other al-qaeda suspects were tried here for those bombings. they were convicted and now serving life in prison. juliet. juliet: eric, what are ghailani's lawyers saying? >> they say he suffered and was exposed to enhanced interrogation techniques, torture. you don't know according to the court papers if that meant he was water boarded but the legal experts say anything that was obtained during the enhanced interrogation techniques will not be used against him. we talked to sick toroo victoria pennson, former district lawyer, who said there were many charges against him. >> the lawyers are complaining about certain constitutional rights, one of them is that ghailani was

-- tortured, therefore the statements he submitted should not be allowed in trial. i think that the prosecutors are not going to admit any of those statements and they will have other evidence. >> reporter: the administration caused an uproar when they wanted to try accused mastermind khalid shaikh mohammed in this very courthouse. the administration has delayed that but they have not said where khalid shaikh mohammed will be tried. back to you in the studio juliet. juliet: eric shawn, thank you. bill: we mentioned a storm out of florida, causing storms and high winds for millions along the east coast. it's starting now, folks. live in miami, live in orlando in moments here on "america's newsroom". also -- >> juliet: bring on the flying mud. you want to throw it? just hiding -- just kidding. an opponent -- in california, an opponent is

compared to count dracula. >> putting jerry brown around pensions, putting him around people in the state government is like putting count dracula in charge of the blood bank. juliet: meg whitman and jerry brown clashing over how to pull their state out of the red. we're live in sacramento when we come back in a moment. stay with us.

bill: morning again, everybody, 9:30 in morning. -- in new york. massive mudslide in mexico, terrible story here, proving to be thankfully far less tkraupl attic than originally thought. right now, one report -- is 11 reported missing no, one feared dead. at one point, the null went to 1000. we'll watch that for you. a senate hearing in what role bp played with this man, abdel baset al megrahi. we understand there will not be witnesses from bp on that story. tropical depression headed

towards florida, a heavy rain falling in the south, expected to continue for much of the day. they might get 10 inches of rain. 10 inches of rain in florida our affiliate, is live in melbourne, how are things? good morning, tiffany. >> reporter: good morning, bill. well, we are still pretty wet out here this morning. we only have a light drizzle at this point but we are expecting heavy rain. we had a lot of rain yesterday, in fact a lot of flooding. you can see we still have standing water behind me. this is actually the construction site along the i95 corridor back in the back. you can see contractors are trying to pump some of this water out and over to the right you can see traffic is moving smoothly but they are driving on very wet roads. you can see the dark clouds overhead. we are expecting 2-4 inches of rain in davard county, and with rain coming down that quickly we are expecting it to possibly flood once again, so we've been sending out advisories all morning long, in fact

florida highway patrol asking people to try to stay off the roads, especially the i95 corridor where it is prone to flooding, but this morning, we're looking good, we had 230 accidents in central florida, fhp respond -- responding to all of those accidents. we're hoping that is not the case again today. but we're looking good so far and expecting lots of rain in florida as that tropical depression heads our way. we'll keep you guys updated. back to you. bill: appreciate that, tiffany, thank you. and the crew, wofl. two hundred thirty accidents. stay safe on the roads, and watch that storm. 9:31 here in new york. juliet: california candidates clashing over how to fix this golden state's teterring economy, republican meg whitman and democrat jerry brown, going head to head in the debate for governor. anita vogel is live in sacramento and has the latest. anyone come out on top?

>> well, hi there juliet, i don't know if there was any overall clear winner. both candidates stuck to their messages and their positions on the issues but i got to tell you jerry brown wins the award for entertainer of the evening. he had the crowd laughing with some one liners and a lot of candor, meg whitman on the other hand was more reserved, she showed perhaps corporate cool from her ceo days. she seemed maybe a bit nervous at first but then loose ended up first and showed a command of facts and figures but brown had the laugh of the night when he addressed whether if elected he would seek a fourth stab at the presidency. listen: >> i now have a wife and i like to come home at night. i don't try to close down the bars in sacramento like i used to do when i was governor of california! >> after the debate, i asked brown's campaign manager, steve glasure, if he was surprised by brown's remark and he said no, that's jerry, he's real, and that's why people like him.

juliet? >> juliet: what are the big issues, the central issues of the debate? >> yeah, the central issues are jobs, the economy, taxes, pension reform. the california unemployment rate is 12.5%, so there was a lot of talk about jobs and how to create them. jerry brown says he has a plan to create 500,000 clean energy jobs by speeding up the permitting processes for wind and solar companies. meg whitman says she want to -- wants to cut taxes and regulations for businesses. she says other states like texas, colorado and arizona are beating california to the punch. >> rick perry the other day, governor of texas, said i come on hunting trips to california. i said hunting trips? he said yes, i come hunt fog companies and jobs for texas because we have a better business environment. >> reporter: so the choice here is between a successful business woman and a seasoned politician, and california voters must decide who they believe can create more jobs. juliet, back to you. juliet: thank you, anita

vogel. bill. bill: the battle for new york is not much nice e. frankly. the latest mud shrinking from tea party favorite carl paladino saying hiring andrew cuomo to create jobs is like asking a ballet dancer to perform brain injury. they said palladino took $4 million from taxpayers and created one job. they say this is undocumented and ugly. en cuomo concedes there's a lot of anger out there, even new york state that, palladino is tapping into today. >> i understand the anger, i understand the economic problems, i understand the frustration, and i can do something about it. bill: we still have 34 more days of this. ought to be interesting in the empire state, across the hudson and new jersey now, governor chris christie, shaking up the teachers' tenture, saying teachers should be paid on -- on how

well students do on standardized tests and not time on the job. >> i do not bash teachers. i bash their stubborn self- interested unions. that's who i bash. bill: there's more of that where that came from. governor christie, sounding off a lot on education reform not just in new jersey but all across the country calling t. quote, the great civil rights issue of our lifetime. juliet: well, new developments in a story we first brought to you on "america's newsroom". >> get offle motorcycle. get off the motorcycle. state police. juliet: remember this video, a motorcyclist recording a trooper that pulled a gun on him during a traffic stop in maryland but the driver did not get in trouble until he posted it on youtube, then he gets slapped with charges, violating the state's wiretapping law. police argue the trooper had a right to privacy.

the trooper had a right to privacy, but the judge said no, thraout out the charges. judge andrew napolitano, you heard him laughing in the last segment, anchor of freedom watch, and contributor to the fox business network. in these days, there's a prevalence of the cell phone videocameras, and everybody is walking around with them now. >> maryland enacted a law which said that every recording of a conversation had to be consensual, or a photographing of the behavior had to be consensual on both parts of both parties, if that was the case you couldn't record anything in public. >> couldn't go to a concert and take the guy sing tp-g he doesn't know. >> right, couldn't take pictures of a concert or -- police used this statute for which they lobbied to prosecute not the police officer for an illegal stop, the guy with the motorcycle wasn't charged with anything

but the guy with the motorcycle for taking a video of it and the judge threw it out, said there's no expectation of privacy in a public place, of road -- a roadway is a public place, the law couldn't possibly mean when the police intend for it to mean, otherwise you couldn't take a picture or recording of anything in public, and besides, it's good for us to see how the government treats people when it confronts them. juliet: conversely, the police officers aren't happy about this. >> no, police are not happy about it and the police actually lobbied for this statute, and there are other states where legislation is being considered that specifically prohibits taping police. why would the police not want to be taped when they confront someone? well, they just might violate that person's civil rights in an effort to accomplish their task, and they may not want a record of the violation of that person's rights. juliet: would that apply to let's say the guys up there on the choppers shooting things happening down the street? >> yes, if that became a

law, it would prohibit that. this particular judge in maryland cited supreme court law which says that filming the government -- doesn't say filming, it says watching. at the time the court came down with this decision, we all didn't have cell phones and video cams. but watching the government and exposing what it does producing honesty and accountability on the part of the government. juliet: so the judge made a good decision? >> the judge in my view made exactly the right decision but i don't think this will stop the police from prosecuting people until the statute is thrown out. the judge did not declare the statute unconstitutional, he just threw out the case against the motorcycle driver. look, the police and everybody in the government are our employees. they should not be filming us. we should be filming them. who gets to tape their bosses? >> we'll leave it at that. i love that. wouldn't that be great? >> judge, always good to see stkpwhraou what did you call me? >> judgemeis tefplt er!

judgula! bill: you got t. thanks for coming in. that chilling terror plot, now disrupted, brand new details on what alleged plan was in the works to stage those attacks. remember this heated confrontation on the hill? >> they wanted to make a cheap political point. >> here's the point we made. >> right here -- >> we made the point. we made the point. we support it, your guys don't. >> one point -- >> bill: we've got to tkpwoerbgs and here's my question for peter king. >> we voted -- i got 94 percent of my colleagues. what percent did you get? how did that whip organization go, how does that cracker jack organization come out? bill: that's the way we do it in new york! that debate over a 9/11 health bill. where things stand on that bill today, and think those two lawmakers made up? anthony weiner is live in three minutes after this.

jewel welcome back. a former union boss close to the white house now finding himself in the center of controversy. his name is andy stern, former head of the services employees international union. he's being investigated by the fbi and labor department for suspected corruption. investigators are looking into $150,000 in fees stern apparently received as part of the no work job. in a statement released by the union, stern says, quote, i have absolutely no reason to believe and not the slightest indication that i'm being investigated by federal authorities. stern is currently a member of president obama's decifit commission. bill: and then there's this: >> i totally supported the bill and i continue to support it. and i wish democrats had shown the same courage to showing up to their party who was afraid to have an up or down vote on the bill. >> one at a time and it's my turn. >> i know you didn't like it last night, hearing the truth is going to hurt, and the truth is democrats,

overwhelmingly, supported this and peter's party overwhelmingly voted against and every single day on the streets of new york i hear people say why don't you guys have up or down votes. we had one last night. today you voted it down. bill bill that was from july and the debate might end today, july, two lawmakers, peter king and anthony weiner, trying pass the 9/11 bill for the health care responders, which there were 30,000 at ground zero, today that's expected to reach the house floor. here with us, anthony weiner. i think we concluded that interview by saying that's why congress has the approval rating of 11 percent. peter king, have you guys kissed and made up, done a man hug, what's up? >> this is a pretty serious matter, bill, and peter and i are working hard to get this bill passed. bill: i know you've made that clear, and i think you had a event recently where you two came together and said you can get this done. will it get done today? >> i certainly hope so. look, we're going to bring

it up today, it's going to be debated and if people are against it they should vote no, but the real important thing is we don't get bogged down in partisan shenanigans and i'm cautiously hopeful, if there's one day we can put partisanship aside, hopefully it's this day and passing this bill. bill: we showed videotape of you two together. when did that happen? >> we had a rally on capitol hill a couple of weeks ago when they first announced this date was going to come, that we were going to try to bring this back again. look, peter and i are committed to the same thing, to getting this bill passed. i believe strongly he was wrong last time, he thinks i was wrong last time but this is the week we make good on it and i guess what both of us are saying, all 435 members of congress should vote yes on this, this is about taking care of people who were there for us on september 11th, 900 men and women, americans died, since september 11th to 9/11 related diseases, we can't let another one die without providing the health care they need. bill: i think you make a

convincing art. republicans would say look, it's a lot of money, it's $7.4 billion. and it's hard to put a price on any human life, but is the bill sound at $7.4 billion? >> well, first of all, $7.4 billion would not get you through a day and a half in the war in afghanistan. let's remember, these are the first victims of that war. we were attacked, our country was attacked, we owe it to provide these people this health care. secondly, the bill is completely paid for. we closed the loophole that makes it too easy for jobs to be shipped off shore, we reward a lot of visitors for doing this and this bill is paid for. i have to tell you something, this is not about the dollars and cents. you say it's a loot. i don't believe it is when you consider the obligation we have to these people. hundreds of billions of dollars were in the compensation fund after september 11th. this is just as much a value as we owe it to these men and women. bill: to be clear, i didn't

say it was a lot. republicans voted against it and said it was a lot. this is a procedural vote, where you had a maneuver where you get two-thirds of a vote and no amendments, is more of that going to happen today? >> it's the opposite. look, i believe what we did last time was the right thing, i said it on your station, this should not be a controversial bill. we have a process for noncontroversial bills. we'll see what happens today. i am confident that -- look, there are a couple of ways in washington people oppose something. one is having the courage to stand up and vote no, the other is to do procedural gains to pry to -- try to bring bills down. that's why nothing happens in the senate and we can't pass bills in the house. i believe if people vote no, and don't believe we have this obligation, vote no, but let's leave aside the partisanship and games to say gotcha with this vote. bill: you know what, there's so much rancor across the country, we're watching some of these electricals, and it's getting downright dirty. early in the week you walked down the hallway, you met with house minority leader john boehner. that's a sign of

bipartisanship, the two of you, and working with peter king on this, also. this is where the patriotism line is drawn. between the parties on the hill. and i think you could see that -- see that quite clearly, the new. >> i think that's exactly right. look, i got to tell you something, i probably wouldn't vote for peter king, he probably wouldn't vote for me and we had tens words and you showed them on this screen but it's not about me, peter king, democrats and republicans. when someone went down to ground zero when the government told them it was safe, when they pulled gravel out with hair hands -- their hands, looking for loved ones, that was a patriotic act. we have an obligation to those people. congress, if we do nothing else should fulfill that obligation and go to our corners and have partisan fights. bill: anthony weiner, thank you. tell peter king when you see him again. go to "america's newsroom", click on the bya box, leave a question about this or

anything that's bugging you on your mind, government spending, taxes, the election. a whole lot of things to talk about. juliet: bya, because you asked. bill: usually that's martha doing the asking but today it's juliet because martha is working later today for megyn. juliet: where's megyn! she said. bill: because you asked, we'll look for an answer. juliet: you're so on top of things. they are set to face a congressional commission over alleged ethics violations, charles rangel, maxine waters, still waiting for their hearings but they've been put off until after the mid materials and you might be surprised who's upset about that. bill by it's only pe. wee football. they're only fifth graders. maybe sixth graders. juliet: well, those are the parents! >> bill: now paying the price for the parents. we'll talk to the man in the middle of this brawl. coming up.

bill: all right, check out stocks right now, trading a bit lower right now, 28 points to the lower died, with the dow 30, only 22 minutes into trading, too. we'll see where it goes. a lot of kpwerpbs europe today. check out gold, gold is $1300 an ounce. juliet: time to go melt my gold jewelry! bill: hopefully you own some of that. or at least maybe you bought it when it was $300 an ounce >> [cheering] >> juliet: when you look at that, and you ask yourself, should cheerleading be considered a sport? well, a lot of folks say yes, and there's a new push hope to go accomplish just that. two organizations trying to make the case that cheers

are about a lot more than just school speurbt. laura ingle has been following this story, but i call her lawyer kwrarbg everybody should know, laura, from new york city. what's the story, laura? >> reporter: you know, cheerleading these days, a lot more than pom poms and pyramids and cheerleaders do consider themselves fierce competitors, think of that movie bring it on, are looking for the recognition they believe they deserve so they can go ahead and go head to head with the tumbling and jumping and cheering and chanting. >> sonya considers herself an athlete. >> we're in the weight room, lifting weights, we're competing with the football guys. >> but in july, a connecticut judge disagreed. ruling cheerleading is too underdeveloped and disorganized to qualify as a sport under title nine, the 1972 law ensuring equal right phos women's athletics. now two different organizations are taking matters into their own hands. >> we want to establish a

new sport where they truly feel that it's utilizing their athletic skill set and to where they're recognized for the amazing abilities that they have. >> u.s.a. cheer and national collegiate acrobatics and tumbling association, or ntaca, on taking the necessary steps to meet ncaa standards, participation from at least 20 schools, consistent score keeping, and competitive regular and post season. >> our goal is to provide new opportunities for female athletes at the collegiate level. >> giving these competitors something to flip over. >> they have so many opportunities, and i've been doing this for so many years and to see it develop into something new like this is awesome. >> both groups hope to have a plan by the spring and hope to have competitive programs up and running by next year but it will be up to the ncaa to make the official ruling. juliet: that is a sport, bill. laura. right? don't you think?

they're flipping. bill: there are aspects of cheerleading that is absolutely a sport. but if you're going to stand around and roll pom poms, that's a debate. lawyer kwrarbgs thank you. in a moment here, the plan was to carry out a sophisticated terror attack, one that could stun the world. that plot has been disrupted what popular tourist spot is on high alert because of it. juliet: kirk stole this world war ii vet's purposeet heart. one mission to make sure this man gets his medal back. want to know what's clicking at fox news.com? click on the most read tab on the home page to see what's hot. the universe is changing captain

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bill: this is a "fox news alert" now, on the terror threat active according to the top intelligence analysts, agents say they foiled a plot in europe, hatched in the mountains of pakistan and attractions and landmarks across the continent remain on high alert. it is a brand new hour of "america's newsroom," i'm bill hemmer. martha is working later today, and we get the lovely juliet, how are you doing. juliet: you said that sarcastically.

bill: no, no, from the heart. juliet: good to be back with you, sorry, didn't mean to hit you, i'm violent, the plot was designed to be a series of tourist murders an kidnappings like the attacks that killed more than 160 people in mumbai in 2008, a dron missile strike is thought to have thwarted the plan. bill: europe is still on edge and greg palkot is still live in london, what is the target as much as we know. >> reporter: the broad brushes of the story are alarm, fox news confirming, through sources al qaeda had europe definitely in its sights, hopefully exposing this and disrupting the plot against sightes in the u.k., france, germany and maybe denmark and they include hotels, transportation links, frequented by foreigners and maybe frequented by americans, similar as you noted to the style of the al qaeda attackers in '08 in mumbai, india and they wreaked

bloody havoc in hotels and train stations and you name it and it is believed those involve with the alleged plot were based in pakistan, the area up against the border with afghanistan. where al qaeda is very active and it is believed, the series of drone attacks, we are seeing this month, a record number of hits were aimed at least in part at disrupting this, and folks, very involved and very concerned, in washington at the very least and over here as well. bill: they are tied to a group in pakistan and do agencies know who was behind the plan. >> reporter: that is what we're drilling down into the past several hours, bill. and, one name that keeps coming up is a german avenue afghan descent and lived in hamburg and eerily and not coincidentally attended the same mosque mohammed atta and other 9/11 terrorists frequented, and

trained with an offshoot of al qaeda and was nabbed coming back through afghanistan in kabul, and he was nabbed by the u.s. authorities, and then he was interrogated. now, one -- i have to stomp down hard on this, i was told clearly by my german contacts, the information that this guy was coming up with was unspecific. he told a lot of stories and told about a lot of plots and was vague about those people who would be involved and his motives were not clear and that is probably why we are hearing a big proviso from everybody on the story we were not the next day close to these attacks, they were in the planning stage, were not imminent and our own jennifer griffin and the pentagon says others might have been involved as well and also could have been involved and i think, the strategy here bill was shoot first, ask questions later. very serious. bill: greg, thank you, let's hope we stopped it in the end and coincidently the only survivor that survived the attacks, greg described on the

mumbai attacks, appealed his death sentence today, and two years ago the world was fixated on scenes like this, surveillance video capturing heavily armed men as they stormed two exclusive hotels, jewish center and train station in india's largest city at the same time, a three day siege targeting tourists and leaving 166 dead and mohammed qassab was the only one to survive and if the appeal is denied on his part it will be pakistan's first execution is six years. juliet: the plot foiled days after terror officials detailed new threats on capitol hill saying al qaeda metastasized with smaller regional affiliates in yemen, somalia and north africa and the digital jihadists are using the internet to spread the extremist messages. >> it is impossible to guarantee that there will never be another attack. we cannot simply put the country under a glass dome.

juliet: homeland security secretary janet napolitano testifying last week adding the threat from homegrown terror is also increasing. bill: the cancer is in pakistan, words from the president, from back in november of 2009. that is the latest excerpt released from bob woodward's new book called "obama's wars" and woodward revealing how the obama administration handled threats from within the borders of a u.s. ally still on u.s. soil a f food. it's amazing. >> so you car how heavy you are,

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want their leadership to do? >> reporter: juliet, we are talking about 47 house democrats, who have sent a letter to house speaker nancy pelosi and they want to extend certain couple of the bush era tax cuts and those are tax cuts for dividends and long term capital gains. they say if you increase these taxes on for example the long term capital gains tax going from 15 to 20% if the bush era tax cuts expire at the end of the year it will reduce capital small businesses and individuals have and will not be able to create private sector jobs and say if you increase the taxes on dividends, then, some companies will not give out dividends or they will decrease the amount they give out to stockholders and that could really hurt seniors and people on fixed income who depend on the dividends, and let's look at part of what the letter those 47 democrats send to speaker pelosi said. representative john adler from new jersey, democrat, led the charge and wrote, raising taxes on capital gains and dividends could discourage individuals and

businesses from saving and investing we urge you to maintain the current tax rate for both dividend and long term capital gains taxes. democratic leaders are not saying though what they intend to do about the bush era tax cuts, house majority leader steny hoyer has said that they will make the decision and announce it, quote, soon. juliet? martha: where are the republicans standing on this? >> they are pretty united, they want to extend the bush era tax cuts, across the board. they say it doesn't make sense to raise taxes on small businesses on individuals, in the type of economy and it doesn't make sense and they say democrats are, quote, allowing an impending tax increase on january 1st, 2011, by not bringing the issue to the floor for a vote. juliet. juliet: molly henneberg, live at the comet. bill: the breaking news happened this hour on tuesday, shock for everyone who knew the university of texas gunman in austin, friends and relatives, his high school principal and teachers

saying the man, colton tooley was a brilliant and model student. his emotions, they describe always in check, polite and respectful, never showed any signs of depression or aggression. his family clearly devastated to learn how he took his own life yesterday, crossing campus in a suit, a ski mask aimlessly firing a rifle into the air. >> walking over here and, had a black mask, and, i was looking and, hey, maybe he's joking. >> we heard loud pops and said, did you hear that, are those gun shots and she said i think i heard that. >> people screaming. >> and somebody with a gun, he has a mask, crazy guy. and it is just, just -- scared me. bill: police were on his trail and followed him into the library and he holed up and eventually turned the gun on himself, text messages sent to students with a warning, stay indoors and keep your doors locked. no one else yeared in that. we were watching it yesterday, a

lot of fear, there was a second suspect and the story went on hours without conclusion and it is a sad conclusion now from austin. juliet: other news, house speaker nancy pelosi said it will be the most transparent congress ever. why are ethics trials for democratic lawmakers still in limbo? bill: also, he was presented with one of the highest military honors and today, a heartbreaking story about how one man's purple heart vanished. juliet: this will get you crazy and this will get you crazy, football turned foot-brawl, not the players. this time.

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juliet: welcome back, the nfl is investigating an ugly incident following a football game in chicago, green bay packers player collins is seen yelling at a fan and looks like he threw the mouth piece into the stands

and the fans with a choice hand gesture and, according to local media, he claims the fans spit on him and used a racial slur and afterwards he reportedly apologized for losing his cool. bill: get rid of the mouth piece, it can take your eye out. for crying out loud. two veteran democrats facing embarrassing ethics trials on capitol hill, looks like they will not seen action until after the midterms in november, republicans accusing leaders on the left now of playing more political games, remember what the house speaker, nancy pelosi said, just four short years ago, in 2006, november: >> we will make this the most honest, ethical and open congress in history. bill: democratic congressman chris van hollen is with me, runs the democratic re-election committee on the house side, good morning, how are you. >> how are you. bill: just fine, the trials aren't going to happen, huh. >> they are going to ham. i think the timing of the trials is up to the ethics committee.

the ethics committee makes its own decisions on these issues. and... bill: didn't the democratic leadership say we'll get to this in september and, well, september is coming and going and it will be october, real soon. >> what the democratic leadership has said is the ethics committee makes decisions for the ethics committee and the ethics committee is out there, for the purpose of making sure they look at the facts, and, that they bring these cases to trial. the fact of the matter is, the reason we are going to have these trials, is because the ethics committee has been doing its work. and, they have brought this issue now, up, and they are going to go according to their procedures. bill: what about the -- what about the -- let me fire away on this point and i'll let you go. what about the pledge that speaker pelosi made four years ago, the cleanest congress we have ever seen, has it been that way. >> what the speaker said was we need to put in place a process to hold our members accountable and, bill, the answer is yes.

compared to previous congresses, we have done an enormous amount of things to make sure that the mechanisms are there, to hold our members accountable which is why you will have a trial. when you have the same situation with earlier congresses, the fact of the matter is, they changed the rules to protect their members, after the ethics committee took action against republican -- >> republicans are run running up your back to urge you along, and i will move to another issue. >> bill, bill, no, you raised the issue here, they are -- well, here's the classic example of republicans trying to play politics with the ethics process, when, in fact, the ethics process is working as it should, and as it did not work before in terms of holding members accountable. bill: let's move to tax cuts now. why won't the house bring this up? and why is it that 47 democrats signed a letter to the speaker yesterday, urging her to extend a lot of tax breaks for all americans?

>> well, i think everyone has been listening to what the republican leader and necessity, mitch mcconnell said and he said it clearly: he said, he will stand in the way of tax relief for 98% of the american people, until he gets tax cuts for the top two percent, the folk s at the top, though it adds $700 billion to the deficit and will slow down long term economic growth and jobs. bill: but you could make up for the expense by cutting spending, could you not? >> our republican colleagues have not come up with any proposal that would cut spending by $700 billion. the fact of the matter is the democrats put in place what we call statutory pay-go to stop the bleeding and to stop the out of control spending, and, that is the -- that was in place, during the clinton years, and it put the brakes on spending, and it was lifted, those brakes were lifted, in 2001, when the bush

-- george bush came in with the republican congress -- >> my question was about the democrats from yesterday, not the previous administration. >> no, but what i'm telling you, bill, is that the -- you asked whether you were going to come up with $700 billion to pay for those tax cuts, and i think you have been hearing all the republican leaders on the talk shows including your own channel's talk shows unable to answer that very question, and, so, that question has been put to the folks who are proposing to blow a $700 billion hole in the deficit and they cannot answer it. what we've said is, let's make sure we don't blow the hole in the the deficit we extending tax breaks for those at the top, let's invest in small business tax breaks and the president just signed a bill on monday, to provide more tax relief, to small businesses. bill: the third topic here. and that ills the election. 34 days away now, there is a right track-wrong track poll put out by politico.com and looking

at whether people are satisfied and 63% say the country is on the wrong track and we found from our own fox news poll in the battle ground states, colorado, illinois, ohio, washington, wisconsin, the bottom line there, is the disapproval number of the president's job performance, is 56%, in colorado and 46% in his home state of illinois, 54 in ohio, 49 in washington, 53 in wisconsin. how do you overcome that when you know this is in large part a referendum on what the white house has done in the past two years? >> well, look, bill, everyone is frustrated with the pace of the recovery. i mean, the president's frustrated of the pace with recovery and everybody is frustrated with the pace of recovery but it is also the case that, most people do not want to go back to the economic policies that got us into the mess to begin with and that ills what our republican colleagues have proposed. they essentially have a proposal that they cooked up over the

last couple of weeks, where in fact, if you ask them what their priorities will be, it is things like repealing the wall street reform bill and putting, you know, wall street back in charge of decisions, that affect everybody on main street, and, sort of the same old, same old stuff and you will see the polls bounce around and the fact of the matter is, though our republican colleagues would like it to be only about the democrats, elections are about choices, between candidates and we urge every voter to look at the record of the candidates, and, look at what the candidates are proposing, for the future. bill: chris van hollen i hope you come back to an. there is a lot -- soon, because is a lot to talk about and there is more on our agenda, and we'll get to it in the, thank you for your time. juliet: alaska's senate race has been producing creative ads, using a fairytale to call a candidate a spoiled princess. >> she wanted to keep the people's... >> it's mine, it's mine!

they gave it to me, mine, mine, mine! >> but the seat doesn't belong to lisa, it belongs to the people of alaska... juliet: who is behind that one and whether it was effective and republican pollster frank luntz joins us next. bill: classic, isn't it? thieves robbing a world war ii veteran of an honor he earned serving his country and how his community now is trying to make everything wright right, for him. you know, fresh green beans lose half their vitamin c in a week.

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bill: an update on former president jimmy carter, yesterday he was on a flight en route from georgia to cleveland, ohio and got a stomach ailment and he was taken off the plane by medics to a local hospital in cleveland, and, stayed there overnight. at the metro health medical clinic in cleveland. and will stay there again today,

apparently, he had a number of assignments set up for book signings for a new book that came out, simple of those have been cancelled. including one yesterday, where they reported thousands of people were standing outside of a barnes & noble store in cleveland only to be disappointed, when president carter's taken to the hospital and we hope for his recovery and hope that is soon but, for now, will stay hospitalized in cleveland, the latest. right now, on president carter. juliet: a world war ii vet said he was lucky to get out alive and now more than 60 years later the ohio man is fighting another battle to get his purple heart back. someone stole in front of his eyes, laurie taylor with the story. >> reporter: michael is a real survivor. has been from the moment he took enemy fire as an army scout. on a french battlefield during world war ii. >> i was lucky to get out alive, i think. >> reporter: he was honored with

a purple heart. one of the military's highest honors. a possession so cherished he kept it in his safe. >> i treasured it. >> reporter: last friday night before 8:30 while he was watching television in the back room of his lorraine, home, someone broke in and took the medal. he says the intruders came through his bedroom window and climbed over the head board and walked all over the bed. he said when they got in here the place had been ransaked and they went through his closet and found his unlocked safe. >> i felt i was lucky i didn't get clobbered by whoever it was, i don't know. >> reporter: at 89, he has parkinson's disease. is nearly deaf, and couldn't confront whomever was in his home, because he didn't hear them break in. his daughters can't help but wonder if that didn't save his life. >> it is scary. i mean... >> so scary, the thought that

something could happen. >> reporter: the intruders took the wedding ban his deceased wife gave him, her costume jewelry, a bag of quarters and some coins from the war. all of them treasures, but it is the loss of his purple heart that he cannot gets over. brian lilly, an internet manager from joe fuhrman chevrolet in lorraine who works with the vietnam vets of lorraine county said the news made him angry and then, it made him act. he has arranged to have the purple heart replaced. >> there are not many chances in your lifetime you get to reach out and say thank you. and actually meet an american hero and that is how i look at him. >> reporter: he and his family are grateful. but, they are still hoping the original medal will be returned. >> i appreciate that, that is very nice of him. juliet: man i hope they find those people. what sick-os. bill: guys are dying every day now in the upper 80s, and low

90s and they are... have lived a life, huh. juliet: hopefully they'll get that replaced. bill: the story out of cleveland, ohio, thanks for that, wjw, we'll follow that up, lisa murkowski lost a major primary to a tea party favorite, joe miller and is a write-in candidate but it will not be an easy battle. >> she wanted to keep the people's... >> it's mine! it's mine, they gave to it me! mine, mine, mine! >> reporter: but it doesn't belong to her, it belongs to the people of alaska. bill: republicans fighting each other in the last frontier and we'll take you there. juliet: was that the wicked witch? voicing that? the treaty of versailles signed in 1919, ending the first world war, so we thought. why the war will actually end this sunday. stay tuned for that. ♪ ♪

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bill: 10:30, new york, the stop tories in "america's newsroom," the woman who threw acid in her own face, claiming it was an attack on her, set to appear in court today, her first public appearance since the tearful news conference after the incident, happened a week ago, she is expected to plead not guilty to charges of theft and a federal judge blocked an excuse set for tomorrow, after questioning problems in california's lethal injection process. the execution would be the first in nearly five years, he was convicted of kidnapping, raping and murdering a 15-year-old girl, taunting her parents, just before it happened. 10:31 now. juliet. juliet: well... stay tuned for this one. the nastier the political ads get the closer we are to election day, in alaska, the ads are targeting write in candidate lisa murkowski and you remember the veteran republican lost to joe miller in the primaries, a tea party candidate and how are

voters reacting, frank luntz, author of "what americans really want... really" and, the folks will see the ad in a second and it is really funny. >> when i go and test the ads, often i don't see them before they go on and i'm watching them as the people with the dials react to them and, my dial would have been off the charts. the red line represents republicans and the blue line democrats, and the higher the lines go, the more impactful the ad, get ready to laugh at one of the most effective, interesting, weird ads in the campaign cycle. look: >> once upon a time in alaska, there lived a royal family, with a king named frank. one day, king frank gave his daughter, lisa, a very special present. a senate seat. the people were not so happy that king frank gave her the senate seat. because, really, it wasn't his to give away. but, they were polite people, and they let princess lisa keep it for a while. then the people decided that lisa had kept it long enough.

but, lisa was outraged. she wanted to keep the people's seat. >> it's mine! it's mine daddy gave it to me, mine, mine, mine! >> but the seat doesn't belong to lisa. it belongs to the people of alaska. america doesn't have royalty. >> i want it! i want it! >> not pretty. in fact, pretty ugly, lisa. paid for by less freedom ring on the web, it'snotyourseatlisa.com. juliet: they stayed on the one shot, horrific picture of lisa murkowski, and, that is -- >> the voice is what -- that defines effective. because, even if you are annoyed at aed and let's face it the voice is annoying. juliet: like the wicked witch. >> you never forget it and it stays with you. and, when people walked out of the session, "it's mine" they were screaming it and it made the point. that this is someone who had her

chance, she lost, and, now it is time to give someone else a new shot and it is effective and it does exactly what it is meant to do. juliet: okay, duties the fact they are staying on the one shot, it seemed like people really responded to that. >> and the lines climb and the republicans were in the 70s and the democrats the 60s and very few negative ads do that well and we have another example of one that doesn't do as well, there is a certain rule in politics. juliet: this is one of the worst. >> when you have to turn to your mother to tell people you should -- juliet: say no more. let's watch. >> you have heard a lot about rick scott but i'll tell you a few things you don't know. rick was raised in public housing, after high school, he joined the navy. rick saved money, bought a doughnut shop and gave his mom a job, how do i know? i'm rick's mom. we didn't have much, but we gave it everything we could. good values, integrity and appreciation for hard work.

he's a good boy. he'll get florida back to work. juliet: people will look at that and think, what, she seemed so lovely and loves her son and seems like a nice lady and he must be a nice guy... >> and republicans like this but it didn't score the same level among democrats. and when you want to have an effective ad you need two things, stretch across the partisan divide and include your support among both sides, and, second, you have to tell someone something that is memorable and that is really, that sticks with them. the fact that mom backs you is kind of memorable but it is embarrassing and reminds people... juliet: like a no-brainer, if mom doesn't back you, a political opponent's ad, that is one thing. >> that is the ad i want to see, a mom of a candidate go out an endorse the other candidate! that is an ad i wouldn't -- juliet: has it ever happened. >> no, but let's see if we can't pull it off the next 34 days. juliet: not that we're trying to be mean or anything, frank. thanks. bill: 34 more days of this,

frank, busy man over there. california senate race, barbara boxer headed for a match with carly fiorina. a tight match, after the campaign suffered a harsh blow in the endorsement category in san francisco, carl cameron explains that, live in beautiful pasadena, california, what is happening, carl, good morning. >> reporter: hi, bill, we have a debate here later this afternoon with both of the candidates and you are right, barbara boxer has been sort of trying to explain how she didn't get endorsed by her home town newspaper and it was telegraphed during the primaries when "the l.a. times" chose not to back her for the democratic nomination and it rattled, the establishment that the newspaper wouldn't get behind her and "the san francisco chronicle" writes, quote, she has failed to distinguish herself during her 18 years in office and there is no reason to believe another knicks-year term would bring anything but more of the same uninspired representation, and, don't make any mistake the san

francicso chronicle is not endorsing carly fiorina but the fact they will not endorse boxer is an illustration of how tepid her support is. some would say cool and we -- looks as though the polls are about dead-even. bill: what should we expect now? does it turn on a debate? slip of the tongue or an answer? or does it happen in the ground game? >> reporter: sure, boxer has been playing the sort of entrenched incumbent situation and has been in washington voting and being a senator and today's debate is much kind of an illustration of what has been happening, the incumbent democrats in d.c., doing the nation's business, unable to deal with the voters at home, very often and the candidate at home, in this case, republican carly fiorina is pounding her for being out of touch and air began and as for the issues, carly fiorina sees boxer's record says it all. listen to this: >> first, remember that barbara boxer is a senator who voted against a balanced budget amendment, six times, she has voted against the relatively

modest proposals mccaskill-sessions to slow the rate of budget increase four times. this is a senator who loves government spending. and, higher taxes, i mean, that is her record. in brief. >> would the people judge, they'd rather have me there, who worked all these years fighting for jobs or my opponents, who, when she has a chance laid off 30,000 workers and shipped the jobs to china and india and it is a pretty clear choice. >> reporter: three term democratic incumbent barbara boxer in washington where, today she'll be debating via satellite, to her opponents, carly fiorina who will be here in southern california public radio, and it really is sort of a picture of how the race has gone, boxer on defense from d.c. and carly fiorina on offense on tara fierra firma. bill: satellites can be tricky. we'll see how it goes, carl cameron in pasadena, california. juliet: thank you, 91 years since the guns fell silent on the western front. did you know world war i will not officially be declared over

until sunday. that is when germany will submit the final payment of nearly $60 million to pay off the $22 billion it owed for starting the great war. that some, part of the treaty of versailles, to compensate the war-torn nations of belgium and france and repay the allies and the debts crippled germany's economy and laid the foundation for world war ii. bill: when it comes to the war on terror, the president says the real cancer lies in pakistan. and colonel ralph peters on the challenges facing our troops today, are we winning, losing, or treading water? peters, next. juliet: and iran showing off the newest addition to the military arsenal. what it is and what it claims it can do.

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jarrett, in a few minutes, on happening now, terror warnings across europe and concerns the u.s. could be a target as nato attacks on pakistan intensify, we'll have the latest on that and also the latest disturbing details on the breaking war on terror story, plus, election 2010, less than five weeks away, the latest polling, plus the tea party candidate, from an important battle ground state joins us live. >> and cheerleading, as well as propagan propaganda, california election ugliness, all that glitters is not gold, coming up, on "happening now", the iranian military says it is equipped with supplying spy boats and are supposed to be invisible to radar, to boost the military in the face of sanctions over the controversial nuke program, and none of the iranian planes can be verified.

bill: the cancer is in pakistan, powerful words from president obama, back in 2009, and, since taking office, the commander-in-chief escalated the unmanned cia drone strikes inside of pakistan, the words of the president, documented in bob woodward's new book, obama's wars, everybody is talking about this in washington, and, talking about it across the country, lieutenant colonel ralph peters is the author of endless war, middle eastern islam versus western civilization is also a fox news strategic analyst. how are you doing? >> i'm doing -- good morning, bill, i'm doing fine. i wish afghanistan was doing better. bill: i watched the "60 minutes" piece with laura logan and i was stunned and what these guys are up against in the out posts, in eastern afghanistan trying to fend off the enemy coming over the border with pakistan and petraeus is in charge now and, break it down so we can follow it, videotape that came in two days ago, from marjah, southern afghanistan. are we winning, losing or

treading water, colonel? >> we are treading quicksand. you cannot build a successful effort on the corrupt karzai government or the duplicitous pakistani government. our soldiers and marines and airmen on the ground are doing a terrific job. they deserve better. one set of policies is going well. and that is the combination of the cia's drone strikes in pakistan and brilliant special operators doing night raids against al qaeda figures in afghanistan. but, everything else, the governance, corruption, winning over the locals, trying to expand the rule of law, frankly, none of it is going well... bill: before we go, when you mentioned the drone strikes and the special-ops, is that a winning strategy? >> well, it is a helping strategy. because, we are going after, when you go after cia guys, in

pakistan, north waziristan or frontier province as you are helping to protect american security. when you go after the taliban leadership, you are buying time in afghanistan. because, the film showed from marjah, when we went in there last winter, our marines, it was supposed to be all settled and the government in a box, perfect and that is a relatively small operation, bill, and now, comes kandahar and so, look, i'm not a defeatist. i want to us do well. but, the current policies, the counterinsurgency, we will not call a counterinsurgency, nation building we will not call nation-building, they do not and cannot work. bill: there is an old statement, if that is the case, i'll take it at face value, what you said, there is an old statement that says you cannot kill your way out of this. do you believe that to be true, even today. >> the question is kill your way out of what? in dealing with al qaeda you can kill your way out of it. in dealing with the taliban you probably can't kill your way out of the it.

because, there is a huge difference between iraq and afghanistan. bill, in iraq, al qaeda were also foreign invaders, and they turned out to be a lot less appealing than we are. in the southern and eastern parts of afghanistan, the taliban are the home team, we're asking the pashtun population to turn against their own relatives and, ultimately, the core problem is we cannot make afghans what we want them to want. bill: but the president is making the case, and he is probably right on this, the cancer is in pakistan. >> absolutely. bill: and you could probably figure out a way to control afghanistan but when you cannot control who is coming over the border, we are fighting from 15,000 feet at the moment. >> and, president obama is absolutely right, so my question is, if the problem is pakistan, why is the preponderance of our efforts in afghanistan? bill, frankly, afghanistan is a worthless piece of dirt. pakistan matters and we don't know what to do about it.

bill: what would you do about it? >> what i would do about it, i think there is a straightforward solution, the pakistani don't have two faces, they have 20, they play against us and support terror and support terror against india and i would withdraw support from pakistan and back india 100% and pakistan would have to behave and our supply routes, 80% of the supplies for our troops go through pakistan. so the pakistanis can blackmail us any time and what is appalling is the former military officer, is the lack of vision and coordination, and the violation of fundamental principles in all of this. bill, we still don't have clear attainable goals towards which we're working. bill: wow. colonel, thank you for coming in today. always appreciate you -- >> sorry, i can't be more optimistic. bill: that is okay. i think the words you used earlier, with -- is that we are bogged down and i used the phrase, "treading water." and hopefully we can get into a

direction where we all should be going. ralph peters, our guest from washington today. thanks. juliet: well, started as a pee-wee football game and ended with a bench clearing brawl and we are not talking about the players' bench. >> i have never seen anything like that, as long as i have been on the earth, i have never seen any fighting like that.

juliet: a sight on a field of a pee-wee football game causing a buzz, a rough block sparking a scuffle between two players and that dispute soon owe ruptured into a brawl between the coaches. check it out.

juliet: and, of course, there were folks there with cameras and cell phones and it is all caught on tape, now, both coaches are out, neither team is allowed in the playoffs, and joining me from houston is one of those coaches, nelson crosdale, his son was one of the players involved in the initial scuffle. good to have you higher... dad. kind of tell us a little bit of what happened there. >> well, the block that you are describing was not even the two kids that are in the scuffle. that had nothing to do with the play. everybody was watching the play develop, that ended up in the end zone, the patriot team ended up scoring, and, one of their players came and tried to throw my son to the ground. juliet: so you ran up. >> yards up the field...

juliet: so you ran in. >> no, the two kids got into a fight on the patriot sideline and the coach from the patriot team grabbed my son and threw him 12 to 15 feet, and that is when the entire stadium erupted and everybody from my sidelines and every direction was running towards the patriot sidelines. juliet: was it predominantly coaches and not the kids fighting? >> the only kids in the fight was my son -- i didn't know this, his son was fighting with my son, those were the only two fighting. juliet: ultimately in the end the teams cannot go to the playoffs. you guys are out as coaches. do you regret what happened? >> oh, definitely. i wish that i could wake up and the day could begin again. the kids are the victims here. neither team as far as the

children did anything, and, you know, the hurricanes, we're 6-0, and we deserve -- and so do the patriots, both teams deserve to be in the playoffs. juliet: any shot that that will be overturned or are you out for the year, definitively. >> i'm not sure, from what i understand the organization, they are supposed to be all bowel the kids and that is the message they always put out, but, you know, if it really is, then they should overturn their decision, and let both teams play. i hope that it's not too late. juliet: we're showing video highlighted there and there are actually two of the coaches fighting and a player goes -- and the kids are trying to stop the brawl, and oh, what a mess. all right, well, you know, i -- obviously you have learned your lesson and the other sides and the other folks involved as well, we don't see this happening very often but we appreciate you joining us and talking about it. bill: you can see him on the video, not his proudest moment.

juliet: parents sometimes get upset and it was his kid and, you know... bill: the fistfights did not happen at our lady of victory in the 5th grade. with the players on the field. juliet: did you ever get to play, bill hemmer. bill: yeah! juliet: tough guy. bill: didn't do so well, that is the truth. martha: you are a buff guy. i would expect more. bill: there were bigger guys man me, the president is hitting another backyard for a chat in iowa, trying to make the case for keeping democrats in charge in november. will the push across country make a difference, we ask that. juliet: and he's the self-described american voice of al qaeda and has new threats against his former home land, new words from adam gadahn. wow! you have got to be kidding me. 80 calories? light & fit has 80 calories versus 100 in the other leading brand. light & fit. irresistible taste. fewer calories. i love light & fit.

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